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Honor veterans by giving PST break

November 7, 2013

To the editor: I find it interesting that the Cape Coral city council has hypocrites sitting on the dais. Yes that”s what I said. The council members from district 2, 3, 5, and 7 are hypocrites....

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grumpy19

Nov-08-13 6:10 AM

They need to include and exemption from the Fire Service Assessment also.

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KirstenThompson

Nov-08-13 6:50 AM

I'm sure I'll make a lot of friends with my opinion but let me preface it with saying that I fully support our veterans. I come from a career military family, the majority of which are veterans, and several of which have served numerous tours in Afghanistan, Iraq,and others. One family member also receives a military disability pension.

With that said, as Mr. Shannon points out, veterans currently receive numerous tax breaks, most notably, they do not pay any property taxes that contribute to the operation and maintenance of our City. One of the key benefits of revenue diversification is to level the 'fairness' of taxation so the homeowners aren't so heavily footing the bills. Veterans, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for serving our country. But, if you are not willing to contribute less than $10 per month to the operation of this beautiful City, I can't support that sense of entitlement.

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Eileyn

Nov-08-13 7:15 AM

Mr. Shannon, I thank you, and all the other veterans, with a disability or not for your service. In fact, many of my own families have served in the Korean, Viet Name, Gulf War, War in Afghanistan, and state-side. Sir, I agree veterans need more assistance, but I also believe that you folks are strong people. I live in a 4/3 home, my tax for the month last month I believe was 9.50. We have to do our share. If you need more help than what you are getting from the VA, and you are over age 60, please call the Area Agency on Aging, or the Elder Help Line. See what else you are entitled too, to help off-site this small fee to provide services to all of our citizens. (1-800-96-Elder) <--elderhelpline.

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grumpy19

Nov-08-13 2:09 PM

Mr. Shannon, We get a non taxable disability from the VA. It is a disability payment which is non taxable by law. The County is not the one that gives the real estate tax exemption, It is the State of Florida that gives it by state statute. We also get free drivers license, first vehicle registration is not free. We pay a clerical cost for it.

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grumpy19

Nov-08-13 2:20 PM

KirstenThompson: read my previous comment. That is the sum and total of tax breaks we receive. We pay for everything else. We pay the gas tax that is supposed to be for roads. Oh, my bad. The council previous to the last one borrowed against that for the Del Prado widening that IMHO was not necessary. "One of the key benefits of revenue diversification is to level the 'fairness' of taxation so the homeowners aren't so heavily footing the bills." That quote is from your comment and couldn't be more wrong. The homeowners are still being depended on the pay the bills. I have a question for you. I asked this of someone else, but they chose to ignore it. How is that the city is spending 6.5 million on roads when the PST hasn't been collected yet? That tells me that the money is there without taxing the residents extra.

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1sandy

Nov-08-13 5:55 PM

@grumpy19: it is obvious to me that since we are at the front of the fiscal year, the money is being taken out of the general fund that has been appropriated but not been spent yet. but you knew that already, didn't you? As far as the veterans, I say give them everything free, free, free. Just like the freedom we enjoy and that they fought for. Why should they pay for anything? Free food, cars and homes...they deserve it and they should get it.

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Packer

Nov-08-13 10:41 PM

Grump... I halfway agree with you. Since we are in a new council, what if we were to meet in the middle? What if wounded vets were give a 50% discount on PST etc...?

My feeling is new council... New theme... How about compromise? I would write council to support that. I have many vet family members, and I do appreciate you that gave all. How about a compromise?

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grumpy19

Nov-09-13 7:07 AM

Packer: I had not thought of that. It's a good idea.

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Lolita

Nov-09-13 9:12 AM

Encourage the new Council to instruct their City Manager to find out if the City has the authority to implement these ideas. May be that the City may have to go to a higher authority, not sure. Let's encourage them to find out so that they go with the right format and right authority before someone jumps on the wrong band wagon and sinks it before it starts.

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netransplant

Nov-09-13 10:07 AM

This a tough subject because we owe so much to our service men and women. Were they promised free services when they joined? Do disabled vets get more tax breaks than others? What about the medical benefits vets receive from the government? Are these free or is there a cost to the vets? What about educational benefits? When do we arrive at a point where the rest of the taxpayers feel they can't give anymore? There must be a point where fair and equitable is being met. There probably are no exact answers to these questions but they are legitimate questions.

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grumpy19

Nov-09-13 11:35 AM

Lolita: The fire service assessment can be changed to ad valorem tax by the city council. That should have been done initially anyway.

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grumpy19

Nov-09-13 11:44 AM

netransplant: We were not really promised anything for free when we entered military service. Some will say we were guaranteed medical care for life. I don't recall that, although medical care is offered to Veterans of various categories. Some pay fees and some don't. As for tax breaks. The tax breaks do not apply in every state. Those are a state and local benefit given by them. The only tax break a 100% veteran gets in Florida is, ad valorem taxes. There are no other tax breaks. If we get pensions and social security, they are taxable. The disability payment is not, just like disability that others get from the state. You must not have served in the military to ask those questions. I served four years of my life. 19 months of which were in Vietnam. I still have nightmares and other things related to my service. You want fair and equitable? Fair and equitable would be IMHO, everyone serve in the military. Then they can make decisions and comments about what Veterans deserve.

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Lolita

Nov-09-13 12:33 PM

Grumpy,

It may be so, but this is a new Council etc. Let them investigate and see what can be done. And, by the way, not all veterans are given all exemptions. Some exemptions are given only to those who left the US to serve. So..there are many different avenues that need to be explored. No harm in finding out and making it happen if it can be done. Thanks for sharing.

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CapeCoralCuestions

Nov-10-13 7:06 PM

Perhaps we have gotten a little off target here. The issue is DISABLED Veterans. Mr. Shannon pays nothing, not one cent in property taxes or fees (schools, libraries, waterways, disaster funds, medical care, etc.) and he will live relatively tax free for LIFE—as will HIS WIFE, although I doubt she is a veteran. Shannon’s sense of entitlement given all the FREE things he takes from our country, state, and city is shameful. Can we remember the military who never made it home alive? What do their survivors get? A small one-time payment, a folded flag, and taps.

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LynnRosko

Nov-10-13 7:43 PM

FYI I personally know Mr. Shannon and what he deals with everyday! There is not one of the posters on here that would change positions with him, not even for a half an hour!

All the Billions that we send to other countries as aide should be kept here to help our own people and all the wounded vets returning from their tours of duty with the heart breaking effects of war.

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LynnRosko

Nov-10-13 7:58 PM

CapeCoralCuestions you are without a doubt the single most disgusting poster that has ever posted on the Breeze! Mr. Shanon takes nothing. He needs whatever it is that he gets and then some!

I would love for you to change positions with Mr. Shannon and then see what your attitude would be!

CapeCoralCuestions you are lower than whale **** and that is at the bottom of the ocean.

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Raydunavant

Nov-10-13 9:37 PM

No, Lynn...most disgusting poster is still your title.

BTW, welcome back...finished licking your wounds are you?

Please post pictures of the Sully/Lurch "victory party"! I want to frame it next to you and Deile 2 years ago!

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CapeCoralCuestions

Nov-11-13 11:23 PM

Muriel--isn't that like the teapot calling the kettle black ask? Slither back under the rock in Dillies garden!

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