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Who was representing the taxpayers?

October 11, 2013

To the editor: Who, from the City staff or Council came to court to defend the citizens against our City’s lawsuit against US???? Only Mayor Sullivan and Councilman Chulakes-Leetz came to speak an......

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lightswitch

Oct-24-13 9:44 PM

NanaII still not getting it. The City of Cape Coral took the residents to court. The residents did not take the city to court. You think (I know you can not) you can comprehend that?

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Duo008

Oct-15-13 11:45 PM

Wow..I make a statement of fact on taxes on my previous residence and people "disagree".. some are just just really negative people I guess....

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johngalt

Oct-15-13 6:26 PM

"Just the facts, Madam."

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1sandy

Oct-15-13 10:29 AM

@johngalt: a dispicable RAG LIAR! There is a special place in hades for a scumbag like you! Haninginthere,JustanotherBill,terrygolf1313,johngalt: These are the same people who write on bathroom walls and made phone calls (before caller ID) during the night. Cowards, the lot!

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CapeCoralCuestions

Oct-15-13 2:03 AM

“On 5/30/10 a fire started in the Yuca Pens area.(north of Durden east of BSR)” – Galt! ME: Were you there? Did you see what happened? I’d say NO, because you and your sort are nothing but a cowardly, undependable, egotistical, lying bunch of sad-sack cowards.. NONE of you have been in the military yet you pretend to be the Veterans’ Great Defenders! Again GALT I say to you, you and your cronies took the equipment and vehicles necessary to prevent Cape Coral from being able to respond appropriately. Your glory was to then claim them ill-equipped and foolish while your media-handlers encouraged you to denigrate and mock them. Galt: your karma will be terrifying and your years of torment will far surpass the pain and suffering you have created, studied, and gave in to.

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CapeCoralCuestions

Oct-15-13 1:42 AM

John Galt! You are without a doubt one of the most TOXIC posters I have ever seen! You and your buddies deliberately withhold fund and leave our firefighters without proper equipment to do their jobs and then you turn around and vilify them for not being able to do their jobs! You are so clearly a sad. Lonely, hopeless man. I pity you.

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johngalt

Oct-14-13 7:37 PM

On 5/30/10 a fire started in the Yuca Pens area.(north of Durden east of BSR) It burned west to Burnt Store Rd. Many fire districts came to fight the fire headed by the FL State Forestry Ser. It burned well into the night. CCFD stood by along the road while other depts.. (Estero, Lehigh, N.Ft. Myers, & Forestry) went into the woods to fight it. CCFD started a “back fire” the next day that got out of control and required more efforts from various departments’, a proud moment for CCFD. This fire was in Un-incorporated Lee Co.

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Lolita

Oct-14-13 2:39 PM

Duo...5 or 6 years ago there was a very large fire up in the unincorporated area and the Cape Coral area which required people and animals to evacuate. Fortunately, no casualties. Many years ago a large brush fire in the area attempted to cross Burnt Store area. Roads were closed with some evacuations. Not sure about any others.

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Duo008

Oct-13-13 7:35 PM

johgalt...I think the largest fire I have seen in Cape Coral since moving here was on unoccupied property in the NW Cape just off BS Road.

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Duo008

Oct-13-13 4:55 PM

For the heck of it, I just checked the property taxes on the home I lived in prior to moving to Cape Coral. It is in an valued LESS than the home I live in now, the total property taxes are close to $9,500.00. I really cannot understand how so many of you think that the city of Cape Coral is OVER taxing you. you must have lived in Mayberry !!!! I paid more in taxes in 2002 for that home than I do here now by 3X.

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johngalt

Oct-13-13 9:42 AM

?” to quote Henry James: "I don't want everyone to like me; I should think less of myself if some people did."

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johngalt

Oct-13-13 9:41 AM

See see see says “Your Billions of dollars of debt for Cape Coral is a compilation of ALL monies owed by the city for the next 25-30 years.” Well sister, do we not owe it? If you buy a home for $200k and agree to pay interest, taxes, insurance, for 30 years totaling $460K do you not owe it? Sure you make monthly, yearly installments, but you’ve signed on to the debt. As a private citizen you can sell the asset and extinguish the balance of the debt. Our city, the municipal government is not a piece of real property, (yes it has some assets of real property which it could sell) [they’ve buying more lately] and we cannot sell the city govt. to extinguish our debt. Every time we elect union stooges to negotiate union contracts that agree to pay out millions in the future we owe it. We can’t sell it, we can’t trade it in on a new Kia, we owe it! To answer your final question “do you think we’re stupid?” to quote Henry James: "I don't want everyone to like me; I should think less o

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onlythetruth

Oct-13-13 7:41 AM

Consider the source when reading this LTE. This is the same man that actually went to the podium in council and complained that unnecessary money was spent because the dentention ponds on either side of the Del Prado widening project had "no water" in them, during dry season!! This is also the same man who would have gladly seen the city spend millions upon millions at the locks/lifts as long as it meant he had better turn around time when he went boating. This is the thought process behind what you just read. So, as I said, consider the source carefully. It seems that as long as the citizens are picking up the tab for their personal wants it is perfectly fine to expend millions. Go figure.

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bobbie

Oct-13-13 1:47 AM

Mr. Crane, in this instance, I thank you for your opposition to the fire assessment. Without you naysayers, we would not be comfortable in the implementation of the fire assessment fee. Once the court proclaims it legal, people like you, Su no legal basis for that at all. llivan, Diehle, Leetz, who wish to drive our fine City into bankruptcy, will have no legal standing for that at all. The City has never sued you or your ilk, but you and yours have tried to sue our City. It was unsuccessful before, and when this decision is rendered, any attempts on your part to sue our City again, will be inconsequential. Go away Mr. Crane. Please move somewhere, where you might be happy. I will pray for your happiness.

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1sandy

Oct-12-13 10:33 PM

Haninginthere,JustanotherBill,terrygolf1313,johngalt,are the people that Rush Limbaugh refers to as the UNINFORMED voters. There just isn't any waste or fat because Mayor Sullivan could not find any waste or fat and the proof is that he has the power of a line item veto and NEVER used it. Ergo, there must be no fat or waste. All the lies and exaggerations that are stated over and over by this cabal every week only serve to fortify the resolve of most of the Cape voters and supporters of this forward moving Council we now enjoy.

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JJSully

Oct-12-13 10:33 PM

Nesta does not ever say anything that someone does not write down for him. Incompetent and inept, of course he will vote for anything that protects his pension. Clueless and I fear just another union stooge. Sorry state of affairs for the city of Cape Coral. Where are all the people who were so upset with Sullivan and Diele lawsuit. They were trying to save the tax payers money. You are being cheated Cape Coral. Throw these bums out.

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Haninginthere

Oct-12-13 7:59 PM

Somehow forcing the city leaders to put tax increases and new taxes on the ballot does seem like the best idea. The jokers we have now obviously can not handle the responsibilities they have operating this city especially the lazy bums that raised my taxes because they don’t want to put forth the effort to find ways to operate more efficiently. This is the first city I have lived in that I have felt the need to pay much attention to what the city is doing since they are always trying to stick it to me. I pay plenty of taxes and the city has a large budget, so if the leaders we have can not find a way to operate with the revenue they have then they need to step aside so someone that knows what they are doing can.

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rocco1

Oct-12-13 3:47 PM

I understand the city covers a large area and that there are many empty lots in the city. So wanting the lots to contribute, i understand. But let's not pretend that vacant lots need fire protection. That is laughable.

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CapeCoralCuestions

Oct-12-13 3:34 PM

Johngaul: LIAR! Your Billions of dollars of debt for Cape Coral is a compilation of ALL monies owed by the city for the next 25-30 years. That is like me saying I am $500,000 in debt because I have a mortgage, taxes, insurance and utilities for the next 25 years. How stupid do you think we are? You and your buddies want us to go into bankruptcy because once that happens, all issues regarding taxes and fees in the Cape will disappear and you will own your vacant lots and homes free and clear. You cheap miserable fraud!

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Lolita

Oct-12-13 3:06 PM

Just as a forest can catch fire, so can a so called dry lot. Just as disasters, sink holes, any disaster occurs, leaks etc. the CCFD and CCPD and hazard teams from both departments, children falling into deep holes, etc. they all respond. and...sir...your 97% is way out of whack and used for simply try to impress others. You are not happy, I respect that. But let's be fair, these responders go to work and never know if they will be maimed or unfortunately never return. They enter murky canal waters to try to save or retrieve. Be fair.

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johngalt

Oct-12-13 2:49 PM

What possible impact does a "dry vacant lot" in N.Cape have on the CCFD? What service does the CCFD provide to the owner of a "dry vacant lot"? How about this; 97% of the calls the CCFD responds to are not fire related. How about our multi-million dollar Royal Fire Houses?

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Lolita

Oct-12-13 2:29 PM

Bill. I really believe you already know the system is created by the City Charter. We elect those to represent us and make policy. That's their job. Referdum items come forth when issues arise. If you want another form of government, start now, but think long and hard about the citizens always voting on everything. This it is chaotic now....wow. Good luck.

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rocco1

Oct-12-13 2:27 PM

Ray, what are the assessed values of these lots paying $33?

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Raydunavant

Oct-12-13 12:00 PM

JohnGalt, The millage rate cap is 10%...we are far from it. I recently did some research and found dry vacant properties in the north paying as little as $33 in Cape Coral Taxes. With the Fire Assessment, they will participate more fully in supporting the needs of the City.

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JustanotherBill

Oct-12-13 10:36 AM

All new taxes and tax increases should go to the ballot to let the voting and tax paying public decide. If it is necessary then the leaders will be able to sell the idea to the public. If not then they will have to make due with what they have. This would eliminate all the nonsense that is going on now. If it goes to the ballot then the majority rules and everyone else can shut the heck up.

One thing for sure is the City of Cape Coral is a train wreck!

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