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Police chief opt-out has fire union head concerned

August 20, 2013

An ordinance that would give the police chief an opt-out option in the Cape Coral police retirement plan has created quite a stir among those on the council and those involved in collective......

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johngalt

Aug-24-13 3:43 PM

Donut ~ good cop No donut ~ bad cop

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johngalt

Aug-24-13 8:23 AM

“A system which pools risk without distributing it to the participants and eliminates the causal connection between risk and consequence introduces moral hazard on a grand scale.”

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Lolita

Aug-22-13 7:12 PM

Maybe the issue of the buy out when some were rehired as contract. Not sure.

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KirstenThompson

Aug-21-13 9:50 PM

I thought the City passed an ordinance a couple of years ago that eliminated the option of hiring an employee back after completing the DROP period. Or am I confusing this with something else?

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611557

Aug-21-13 12:04 PM

Lets see, so if your in line for the job you simply retire from the force, than get rehired like Murphy did. Sounds like it's from with in the department. Either way hire in or out after 35 years its time to say good bye.

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611557

Aug-21-13 10:59 AM

Allowing the Police Chief to stay sends a very bad message to all city employees. Whatever happened to the natural progression of promoting from within the organization. I see very capable Police Captains who would be in line for a promotion. Whats going on is bad business and somewhat self serving. The employee should not be directing what he wants. If the City Manager wants to hire someone from the outside than why haven't we started a National Search to replace the Chief? This tells me this smelled bad from the beginning. If the Chief wanted to stay onboard with the city he should have run for office in the upcoming city election. Time to say good bye.

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lightswitch

Aug-21-13 9:45 AM

Hey maybe next budget the city can tax the residents for the CRA and replacement of the trees and sidewalks already done? We can redo them again! Oh they city already does tax us for that. Individual sidewalk case one corner sidewalk was replaced not once but 4 times. First second time NO REBAR to reinforce vehicles driving over the curb. Third time they used rebar. The 4th time they reengineered the turn widened it and used the rebar. Chuck Pavlos was our super duper Public Works Director. But he was asked to leave and now tiny city of 6,000 has him! Lolita you stink.

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lightswitch

Aug-21-13 9:37 AM

Then their was 10 years of Lee County Electric begging for the Cape to put power lines under ground or above on 30' concrete poles. Ten years! Then Jacobsen CRA director tells us the developers European multi-storied building would be infringed on visually and the former fire chief puts his 2 cents in about safety. So The FAB 5 borrow 10 million from the CRA to give it what it wants. As I stated the project developer disappeared. Not counting the so needed parking garage in that area. All after the money was committed and spent. I only wish someone like you would be responsible for screw ups like this in the private sector so you could be fired and never work in this area again. Not like the person taking credit for putting the power lines under ground and having the nerve to put it on a website. The city government in Cape Coral, Fl is a runaway train wreck for everyday taxpayers and is a financial boon for those who have the city pay them for a job not necessarily well done.

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lightswitch

Aug-21-13 9:26 AM

Lolita you want me to go away? Then fix it or turn it (the city) who will or can!

As far as what you think of me I do not care. Too many years of being nice and taking your type of advice accomplishes nothing. Do not look now but the city is getting worse not in infrastructure but in the ability of a very large number of people to have a quality of life. Why because planning ie. the re redevelopment of south cape. Tearing up sidewalks and mahogany trees pushing up through the sidewalks. Where was staff on this on tree selection? When those trees were selected many residents said it is not Florida, it is not tropical and they are slow growing. So many other messed up projects. CRA Director Jacobsen coaxes Key West look, low profile buildings to European Village/Urban profile 2 or more stories with retain down and living up. Then says one day before he was finally booted (many residents wanted that for his other NO SHOW performance.) the developers want the key west look!

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Lolita

Aug-21-13 8:37 AM

Switch: You are, without a doubt, one of the most obnoxious on this form of communication. To prove your point, you have to resort to name calling. Many in this City are even more aware of what is going on, but choose a different route They work hard, quietly, without name calling and character destruction, to get the job done. You and others like you, try to destroy. Know this, it only spurs us on. The know the old adage, "sticks and stones, etc.". Have a wonderful day.

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lightswitch

Aug-20-13 9:16 PM

We don't know he is leaving. Have you kept up with the change for him to retire because of the DROP system and be rehired until he decides when he is really going to retire. This opt out language is as bad or worse than the entire DROP program. Oh and your little class in manners is in most good households. So don't tell me what to say or how to think. You self righteous ninny!

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terrygolf1313

Aug-20-13 5:12 PM

YOU GO FOR A JOB YOU KNOW THE RULES BEFORE YOU ARE HIRED IF YOU DONT LIKE THEM THEN DONT TAKE THE JOB.IF A CHIEF DOESNT PLAN ON STAYING ANY LENGTH OF TIME WE REALLY DONT NEED HIM AND WE SURE DONT NEED SOMEBODY AT THE END OF THEIR CAREER.

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Lolita

Aug-20-13 3:05 PM

Rather a left handed compliment. My parents taught me that if you can't compliment or say something nice when people are ready to leave, just shake their hand and say thanks, but why would I ever expect anything like that from you.

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lightswitch

Aug-20-13 11:50 AM

While the city of Cape Coral, Fl. is not steeped in reality of any of those they employee.

It calls to mind what a business owner taught me about human nature. That when an employee opts for a direction to leave. Whether for greener fields, or retirement there should be no return. Why because if you were receiving good production it will never be the same again. Anytime it becomes too trying the Employee instead of the Employer gets to use the "out card". I am not saying his long service was not adequate or as an individual he did not meet what was needed. The time has just come to separate and remain friendly.

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