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UEP moves ahead at heated meeting

Per-property fees lowest since 2002

July 25, 2013

Despite contentious debate that included citizens blasting council members and council members blasting each other, the long-delayed Southwest 6&7 utilities expansion project moved forward Wednesday......

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Lolita

Jul-25-13 11:10 AM

Unfortunately what the entire City witnessed last night, was not only those who will be impacted by the assessments, we witnessed a blatant lack of control on the part of the Mayor to maintain order in the chambers which eventually lead to an equally out of control Councilmember who hurled insult after insult at Auditors, council members and whoever else he could. He used the bully pulpit for campaigning and his "buddy" allowed him to do it. Takes courage to run a City and this Mayor and Council Member blatantly are using their bully pulpit for the opportunity to campaign. Too bad the City of Cape Coral has been reduced to this level.

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nannette

Jul-25-13 12:58 PM

What is taking place in Cape Coral is what has happened already in Detroit, what will happen to California and soon in New Orleans. Bankruptcy for lack of financial experience by those that have been "put in place" to run the City Council.

The PEOPLE have NO say in how they will loose their properties due to the overwhelming burden imposed by Federal, State and City taxation.

Florida doesn't have a legal "income tax", but instead uses fees. At the end, when citizens can't pay the city or state will take over their property for the tax owed and the citizen will become homeless.

There's an imminent take over of land and buildings/private property by the gov. through taxation. Is this what the USA is about? The American dream is being destroyed through the constant hunger of those in "power" given by the people to have and impose their desires to attain their hidden agendas. It has nothing to do with growth.

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nannette

Jul-25-13 1:19 PM

People that want what they want and hide who they are don't know what Karma is. Power grabbers always meet their mentor.

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linda53

Jul-25-13 2:55 PM

imo,what was seen last nighton Cape TV was the complete failure of any leadership qualities in this Mayor.It was under his watch that Mr. Leetz lost complete control of his fear mongering big mouth and scare tactic ways of the fab5. These two men should resign from their posts immediately or be censored by the remaining council, until the election process is over. What an embarrassment to those that had to pay for their utilities,without any hardship programs,to have to watch what some residents will do to get out of sharing the burden of the UEP. Question for Ms. Campbell,how many properties do you own in Cape Coral that falls under the assessments that will be under the UEP expansion? .. Lightswitch , help her out if she has a problem understanding !

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lightswitch

Jul-25-13 3:16 PM

I'd say that there are some pretty ticked off voters that now know they have to show up at the polls, or at least take the time to send in an absentee ballot from the home they live in before it is taken from them. Finally the sleeping dogs are waking up!

Now who can we thank for this is the "Slick Six" who have helped institute a 7% Tax on electricity, have covered 62% of a Fire Dept Budget rouchly $21 million to be presented to homeowners as a separate bill, with storm water, and bio solids removal Taxes. The luckiest winners get a bill for UEP not $20,000 as first stated but $24,400 or about $160 a month for 20 yrs. All with a 7.13% increase in valuation to bump the 3% cap to the MAX. Long live Detroit & the NEW Receiver who is cutting government wages and those ungodly pensions down to size! Tick, tick, tick, each day Cape Coral gets closer and closer! The cry goes up, "LETS DO IT!"

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lightswitch

Jul-25-13 3:19 PM

Cariosia for mayor? What a joke he is! Consultants? Retried lawman? Part of the problem you bet!

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terrygolf1313

Jul-25-13 3:25 PM

IT WAS REDUCED TO THIS LEVEL WHEN THE UNION PUPPETS CAME INTO POWER,THE TAX PAYER DOESNT MEAN A THING TO THESE PUPPETS AS LONG AS THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THE UNIONS

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Lolita

Jul-25-13 4:20 PM

What is the relation from assessments to Union? Where is the connection. Please explain.

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NanaII

Jul-25-13 5:02 PM

The "rag bag" tries to incite another riot of angry citizen's just like 2009. I hate to inform them that UNLIKE 2009 the crowds are smaller and their lying message of doom and gloom predictions, while embraced by the angry 100, is being ignored by the vast majority of Cape Coral residents. 2% rates and 20 year old pricing is not the right time? Obviously someone lied when they said give us a good price and a better managed UEP installation and we will support it. The right time for them actually is NEVER. Meanwhile, the current ratepayers will continue to suck-up those yearly rate increases (NOT).

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Lolita

Jul-25-13 5:03 PM

TERRY...THOUGHT I WOULD MAKE THE PRINT LARGER. WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ASSESSMENTS AND UNION?

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NanaII

Jul-25-13 5:10 PM

Sully should apologize to the residents of Cape Coral for falling asleep at the gavel. That mob scene was allowed to get WAY out of control by him, and embarrassed our City greatly. Leetz is too far gone to ever be saved. He needs to GO!

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johngalt

Jul-25-13 7:12 PM

New sign on the city council chamber door… “Attention! Business conducted within is expressly intended to enrich municipal union & administrative personnel. Citizens are advised that local ordinance and local rules trump their rights as described in the US Constitution. You are invited to attend our regular meetings and comment on our awesome control, authority, and benevolence, over your lives, property, and businesses. Those dissatisfied by our decisions will be summarily escorted from council chambers by the very police we are here to enrich and blindly support. “

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bobbie

Jul-25-13 7:12 PM

Nannette: I hit disagree repeatedly on your comment. 1. Cape Coral will not go bankrupt anytime soon, despite the desires of the OLD RAGs. We will even survive the kind of damage Leech did last night. 2. Putting utilities in this City ,in no way is a "hidden agenda". What in the world could the unions, as accused, benefit from the expansion done on outside contract? You're just silly. 3. You say the UEP has nothing to do with growth. You need to A. Read state law and B. Study the environmental problems of septics in dense population and learn about our drinking water sources. 4. You think there is a plot for the City to take over people's homes and property. So wrong, that's the last thing the City wants! You appear to be paranoid. Your second comment was pure paranoia.

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bobbie

Jul-25-13 7:24 PM

Dimbulb: It would be helpful if you would direct just a small bit of your energy toward helping your City (read, your citizens) instead of trying to drive us to bankruptcy. What that will do is ruin our homeowners and our businesses. I know that you've said you're leaving before that happens, but don't you care about them? Just because the majority in this City refused to give you the power, you so needed, you have decided to tear us all down. So ugly of you. And about your other post....DOH! Carioscia is not running for Mayor, but if he was the Mayor, I bet he'd have more control of a meeting than Sully! Nana you are so right and Leech will be gone in Nov.

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Avatar

Jul-25-13 8:15 PM

Who is making money through this project? Why are they pushing so hard when the affected community does not want it?

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bobbie

Jul-25-13 10:09 PM

Avatar: No one is making money. If you have any facts to back up an accusation of such, please put those facts before us. Next the project is progressing because it is a responsible approach to growth, to insure a clean environment for our future.

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onlythetruth

Jul-25-13 10:29 PM

I find it amazing how all those who rail against the project don't seem to mind if the current rate payers continue to carry the load. Rate payers, rise up and be heard!!

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lightswitch

Jul-25-13 11:28 PM

My comment Boobie was sheer jest. I know who is running for mayor and McGrail is not the winner. I told you McClain would not get reelected and he just self destruct3ed and hopefully goes back to Indianapolis, Indiana. The time has ended giving this city a get out of jail card to by keeping quiet. With regards to city screw ups for three decades I read, watched, experienced mostly poor decisions, seemingly no plan, just the city has growing pains. Well it really does because the base private sector here is shallow and hollow. Business profiles of the city claim the only thing it has is "GOVERNMENT". You want me to trust a guy like McGrail, Donnell, McClain is not a lame ducK he mounted himself, Nestor (OMG), Cariosia, or Erbrick. Not a chance! They may not be running but the ones who try to get reelected are not going to be delivered even by any of the unions.

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bobbie

Jul-25-13 11:35 PM

Oh Dimbulb, now you think McGrail is in the mayor;s race? You are so F...ed up. And now you try to make us think that you were here for 3 decades? Liar, liar, pants on fire. Competition with Leetz as Liar of the Year!!!!! And I think McClain just got sick of Asshats like you!

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lightswitch

Jul-25-13 11:42 PM

As far as the utility expansion yeah I want to see it for the entire city.

A recent song bird at one time chirpped about a study his minion finance director completed. As he stated on Cape TV at the council meeting before he RESIGNED or fled you choose. The Utility Expansion will not necessarily offset the rates for the people already on the system. That was Terry Stewart 2 former city managers ago. So what changed today? Which one of the Bozo City Council members is going to guarantee the city will be better off? Too bad so much DEBT SERVICE is going out of the city and not building the projects. Too bad the numbers always come back skewed from what the city states or publishes. Here is one. The UEP is half a million under estimated amount. Two days later the $20,000 per home escalates to $24,400, or 22% HIGHER. Which figure is BS? Just like the roads what had been published as 110 miles, went to 80 and then out of Erbrick's yap 66 miles.

TRUST THE SLICK SIX...NEVER!

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lightswitch

Jul-26-13 12:16 AM

Bobbie does not remember former mayor Burche's company di design work on the last catastrophie of a UEP phase here in Cape Coral. Then he sold his business to another party and stayed on with them.

But no one made any money?

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lightswitch

Jul-26-13 12:31 AM

Bobbie you got me on the mayor statement. However he will be spending his time running for district 6.

I do not think he will win his district. But when you try to get the entire road paving budget from the city and the $6.5 million that was to be designated every year until his district is repaved. He is not going to get the votes from the other 5 districts who now vote for all the districts and the mayor at large. So EITHER WAY BOBBIE IT BECOMES THE SAME> NO MORE MCGRAIL!

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netransplant

Jul-26-13 5:51 AM

Unlike some of the posters here I live in 6/7 and like many of my neighbors I want the UEP installed. Sully and his friends have now been shown to be hypocrites and liars, since he said he would support this with lower costs. Well the costs are now lower than the last decade plus, and with super low bond costs the prices will never bethis low again. As far as waiting for everyone to afford it that will never happen because there will always be some who can't. There always has been and there always will be. If you are under water then you paid too much and will learn that lesson someday anyway. It is time to move forward soles get to work! The only people making money are the guys doing the work.

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1sandy

Jul-26-13 6:38 AM

For the rate payers here who say they are glad the UEP is coming, where were you at the Wednesday night meeting? These UEP final meetings are only going have more "rancor." Prior Council's have gave in to the mob mentality, do you really want that to happen again? 30 to 40 percent rise in water bills will be the only solution to maintain the water plant and the subsequent maintenance required with out futher rate payers being put on line. Wake up and get off the couch and let your voices be heard or pay the piper.

This best citizen's statement of the night was, "why don't we wait until the people say WE want the UEP?" & Leetz then endorsing the statement. Gee, I don't really know why...except we would all still be on septic & well, to be sure.

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JJSully

Jul-26-13 7:47 AM

It will be refreshing when we get McGrail off the dias. His pompous *** needs to hit the bricks. He is suppose to be supporting his district. He does not have the courage or integerity to lead anyone. The sooner his fat arse is gone the better for the entire city. This entire council is loaded with a slick six bunch of liars

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