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UEP moves ahead at heated meeting

Per-property fees lowest since 2002

July 25, 2013

Despite contentious debate that included citizens blasting council members and council members blasting each other, the long-delayed Southwest 6&7 utilities expansion project moved forward Wednesday......

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Jul-29-13 8:23 PM

Nana you and the other readers on the string can reread as many time as they care to what you stated.

It is what it is and states what you stated!

Reread it yourself. It was no typographical error!

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Jul-29-13 5:10 PM DARE you accuse me of being insensitive to anyone with REAL problems. You know absolutely nothing about me OR trigger finger it seems. THAT condition is quite treatable. The very first line of treatment is to rest the finger, so tell you buddy the mayor to stop all the nose picking and finger pointing!

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Jul-28-13 3:52 PM

The rate payers did the heavy lifting on the utility project.

Just think in those payments was the cost of repaving their streets that went along the water, sewer and irrigation lines.

So the real question lies in the reason whether it be SW 6-7 or a district north of Pine Island road, Why do they feel they owe the areas who are paying for utilities nothing? However their representative wants not the $6.5 million a year as planned, but all the budgeted monies?

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Jul-28-13 3:45 PM

Cui bono, Cisero to the Romans. Who does it benefit.

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Jul-28-13 3:44 PM

Cui bono, Cisero to the Romans. Who does it benefit.

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Jul-28-13 1:40 PM

The online poll by the Breeze shows a 3 to 1 margin of support for the UEP. Lets get moving.

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Jul-28-13 1:25 PM

Careful Galt.. Discrimination of any kind, is not tolerated, especially ethnic slaps.

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Jul-28-13 7:41 AM

Cui bono? One of the council members was quoted last week “We need to show Moody’s that we’re moving forward”. This simple utterance should tell us all we need to know regarding the UEP. The bond rating, the access to cheap money, the potential for more grandiose projects, is what is as stake here. The city can’t print money but it can do the next best thing, “float” more municipal bonds! One council member stated that the UEP will create jobs. Jobs for the out of town managers, supervisors, and the really out of town laborers who, shall we say English is not their first language. Whether you have well water or city water matters not to the local economy. Unless of course your definition of local is city gov’mt.!

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Jul-28-13 12:46 AM

Nana II do you have disdain for amputees, the blind, those inflicted with just a limp? You shallow lowlife woman to pick up on and criticize a person mayor nor not for a symptom called trigger finger. It shows how well you are to connects the dots. Sullivan has a better understanding and more sense in that finger than you possess in your entire brain. And the dopes that do not know it there is a ground swell that actually HATE (strong word but true) this SLICK SIX council. The majority of the people will come to polls and one by one they will go. I have a feeling the people now understand they have been taken advantage of and the solution is not one election. But now I feel the numbers of sleeping yellow dogs have been awakened and will vote to save themselves. Oh and if they do not then there will be more years of foreclosures and stunted growth. Anyone notice Lee County's blurb about the average home in unincorporated Lee County? Average home is $225,000. Sales are bris

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Jul-27-13 8:32 PM

1sandy: The reason the rate payers don't show up at these meetings is very simple. Nobody listens to them because they get shouted down by those who are in opposition.

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Jul-26-13 6:43 PM

JJSully (aka Mr. Mayor) you have crossed all lines of responsibility and decency! Can you become more childish, rude, and insulting to a FELLOW Councilman?? I hate to think it, but YES I guess you can and would IF re-elected! I have a few suggestions for where you can put your asinine ideas along with your limp finger but I would never put it in print as YOU have put your asinine and outrageous insults!

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Jul-26-13 2:17 PM

Let's hope the people involved doesn't listen to you or your ilk and rush down to get qualified for the hardship programs or a payment plan before the programs expire.The UEP has been approved and any comments from you are only spiteful thoughts. Move on if you are not satisfied with the city's growth

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Jul-26-13 10:40 AM

And today's charge for the UEP $16,000. Just proves my point the numbers are never correct. So is it the city? Is it the reporter(s)? Can the entire media outlets be screwing up or city council members, city manager or city public information director? The figures change more than the stock market at city hall.

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Jul-26-13 7:47 AM

It will be refreshing when we get McGrail off the dias. His pompous *** needs to hit the bricks. He is suppose to be supporting his district. He does not have the courage or integerity to lead anyone. The sooner his fat arse is gone the better for the entire city. This entire council is loaded with a slick six bunch of liars

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Jul-26-13 6:38 AM

For the rate payers here who say they are glad the UEP is coming, where were you at the Wednesday night meeting? These UEP final meetings are only going have more "rancor." Prior Council's have gave in to the mob mentality, do you really want that to happen again? 30 to 40 percent rise in water bills will be the only solution to maintain the water plant and the subsequent maintenance required with out futher rate payers being put on line. Wake up and get off the couch and let your voices be heard or pay the piper.

This best citizen's statement of the night was, "why don't we wait until the people say WE want the UEP?" & Leetz then endorsing the statement. Gee, I don't really know why...except we would all still be on septic & well, to be sure.

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Jul-26-13 5:51 AM

Unlike some of the posters here I live in 6/7 and like many of my neighbors I want the UEP installed. Sully and his friends have now been shown to be hypocrites and liars, since he said he would support this with lower costs. Well the costs are now lower than the last decade plus, and with super low bond costs the prices will never bethis low again. As far as waiting for everyone to afford it that will never happen because there will always be some who can't. There always has been and there always will be. If you are under water then you paid too much and will learn that lesson someday anyway. It is time to move forward soles get to work! The only people making money are the guys doing the work.

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Jul-26-13 12:31 AM

Bobbie you got me on the mayor statement. However he will be spending his time running for district 6.

I do not think he will win his district. But when you try to get the entire road paving budget from the city and the $6.5 million that was to be designated every year until his district is repaved. He is not going to get the votes from the other 5 districts who now vote for all the districts and the mayor at large. So EITHER WAY BOBBIE IT BECOMES THE SAME> NO MORE MCGRAIL!

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Jul-26-13 12:16 AM

Bobbie does not remember former mayor Burche's company di design work on the last catastrophie of a UEP phase here in Cape Coral. Then he sold his business to another party and stayed on with them.

But no one made any money?

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Jul-25-13 11:42 PM

As far as the utility expansion yeah I want to see it for the entire city.

A recent song bird at one time chirpped about a study his minion finance director completed. As he stated on Cape TV at the council meeting before he RESIGNED or fled you choose. The Utility Expansion will not necessarily offset the rates for the people already on the system. That was Terry Stewart 2 former city managers ago. So what changed today? Which one of the Bozo City Council members is going to guarantee the city will be better off? Too bad so much DEBT SERVICE is going out of the city and not building the projects. Too bad the numbers always come back skewed from what the city states or publishes. Here is one. The UEP is half a million under estimated amount. Two days later the $20,000 per home escalates to $24,400, or 22% HIGHER. Which figure is BS? Just like the roads what had been published as 110 miles, went to 80 and then out of Erbrick's yap 66 miles.


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Jul-25-13 11:35 PM

Oh Dimbulb, now you think McGrail is in the mayor;s race? You are so F...ed up. And now you try to make us think that you were here for 3 decades? Liar, liar, pants on fire. Competition with Leetz as Liar of the Year!!!!! And I think McClain just got sick of Asshats like you!

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Jul-25-13 11:28 PM

My comment Boobie was sheer jest. I know who is running for mayor and McGrail is not the winner. I told you McClain would not get reelected and he just self destruct3ed and hopefully goes back to Indianapolis, Indiana. The time has ended giving this city a get out of jail card to by keeping quiet. With regards to city screw ups for three decades I read, watched, experienced mostly poor decisions, seemingly no plan, just the city has growing pains. Well it really does because the base private sector here is shallow and hollow. Business profiles of the city claim the only thing it has is "GOVERNMENT". You want me to trust a guy like McGrail, Donnell, McClain is not a lame ducK he mounted himself, Nestor (OMG), Cariosia, or Erbrick. Not a chance! They may not be running but the ones who try to get reelected are not going to be delivered even by any of the unions.

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Jul-25-13 10:29 PM

I find it amazing how all those who rail against the project don't seem to mind if the current rate payers continue to carry the load. Rate payers, rise up and be heard!!

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Jul-25-13 10:09 PM

Avatar: No one is making money. If you have any facts to back up an accusation of such, please put those facts before us. Next the project is progressing because it is a responsible approach to growth, to insure a clean environment for our future.

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Jul-25-13 8:15 PM

Who is making money through this project? Why are they pushing so hard when the affected community does not want it?

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Jul-25-13 7:24 PM

Dimbulb: It would be helpful if you would direct just a small bit of your energy toward helping your City (read, your citizens) instead of trying to drive us to bankruptcy. What that will do is ruin our homeowners and our businesses. I know that you've said you're leaving before that happens, but don't you care about them? Just because the majority in this City refused to give you the power, you so needed, you have decided to tear us all down. So ugly of you. And about your other post....DOH! Carioscia is not running for Mayor, but if he was the Mayor, I bet he'd have more control of a meeting than Sully! Nana you are so right and Leech will be gone in Nov.

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