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June 14, 2013

To the editor: At the June 5 meeting of city council, Mayor Sullivan, twice gaveled City Manager John Szerlag, denying him the opportunity to respond to allegations made by the council member in......

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FCPERRY

Jun-14-13 6:39 AM

Mr. Leon: I agree with, it is important to continue to move the City forward.

This constant barrage of accusations and just mean spirited rhetoric by a councilman with his own personal agenda hurts our City.

It is time to move forward with a positive attitude and respect to work together to solve the problems Council will face.

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linda53

Jun-14-13 7:47 AM

Mr. Leon.. please remember who you are dealing with..a councilman that has to rely on others to guide him,thus the signing of that fake contract that he and the mayor signed in 2009. Beholden to the RAGS has become a task for both and they are floundering.Anger,hate and misinformation is all they have left in their tool bag.Soon they will dissipate in the coming elections and our great city will grow into a remarkable destination!

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1sandy

Jun-14-13 9:02 AM

I'm not going to make excuses for John Sullivan,but it appears to me that he is losing it. Just look at the videos of the last City Council meetings. The Mayor,too often,appears to be mumbling,losing his train of thought and is also caught out of sequence in calling the vote,(forgetting to ask for citizen input on ordinances,forgetting that there is already a second,etc.)to be re-elected. Look at the way he blew up at the woman who was not familiar with the council procedure. The Mayor lost all composure,threatening and intimidating her and now he goes off and threatens his own city manager,who was only following the city charter. The News Press found that incident so troubling they printed an instant editorial condeming him. Embarrassing, to say the least.If the Mayor has a medical problem, I hope he gets the mental help he needs,but to watch him,it is apparent to me that he does have a serious medical mental problem. The office of Mayor is too important to re-elect John Sullivan.

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JMiehle

Jun-14-13 9:54 AM

Isandy you are right. Also, notice the amount of time Leetz is absenting himself from meetings and leaving meetings half way through. Unsubstantiated charges, nothing new there for Leetz, SOS. Both of these problem children can be dealt with in this election.

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lightswitch

Jun-14-13 10:18 AM

Linda 53 who do you know that relies on no0 one to guide them?

Accountants, Lawyers, Consultants, even Law Enforcement.

I guess your network is just you?

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terrygolf1313

Jun-14-13 1:58 PM

LEON WHERE WERE YOU WHEN McCLAIN GOT AWAY WITH BREAKING THE CHARTER,OR ARE YOU A WANT TO BE PUPPET THAT WILL ONLY DO WHAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND UNIONS WANT?YOU SOUND LIKE JUST THE KIND OF PERSON WE REALLY DONT NEED ON COUNCIL

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JJSully

Jun-14-13 3:42 PM

Mr Leon, we need to move forward but it will be a cold day in hel before I would vote for you. Did you move out of your mom's house yet. Still bagging at Publix?

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linda53

Jun-14-13 3:53 PM

lightswitch,this only goes to show you dont know anything about me. Your insults only show what an angry ,disqusting person you really are. Hiding behind your AVATAR makes you a no matter,in any issue.Don't you realize that.

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linda53

Jun-14-13 3:55 PM

JJ and Terry, if you dont like the way things are done in our City then move somewhere else.

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grumpy19

Jun-14-13 4:18 PM

Although I don't condone what was said from the dais. There is a general rule at meetings that one council person is never addressed directly. Mr. Szerlag could have answered to accusations by addressing the entire council. This rule applies to everyone, no matter the issue at hand.

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netransplant

Jun-14-13 5:03 PM

Grumpy, that applies to the public, not officials. Terry goof, you avoid the issue by deflection. The mayor was assumed to know the charter but he hasn't learned even to run a meeting properly. What are you JJ, 8 years old?

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Packer

Jun-14-13 5:06 PM

The mayor needs to go! I am concerned about his ability to hold it together. He lost complete control of his emotions over something quite minor. Even if you are a Rag Cap you can't tell me this is the guy you want blazing the trail for our City. Think about it... He completely lost emotional control over that... What in World is he gonna do when faced with a real crisis... Panic? Worst case we at least need someone who can stay calm.

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onlythetruth

Jun-15-13 7:04 AM

JJSully, once again you exhibit the epitome of class with your insulting derogatory statement to Mr Leon. If there is one thing we need more of in today's political landscape its young blood. To see you openly discourage someone who is willing to jump into the fire is what I would expect from you, thank you for not disappointing.

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onlythetruth

Jun-15-13 7:10 AM

Grumpy, that rule is in place for the public, (which I don't agree with by the way). Mr Szerlag occupies a seat on the dais just as the council members do, and if he is addressed directly, (as he was by Councilman Leetz) he has the right to answer. It has been too easy for those on the dais to address someone directly with backhanded statements, or outright insults and then proceed to hide behind the weak rule in place that they are not to be addressed directly. That RULE needs to go. If you're a council member who wants to dish it out, they should be willing to get it right back.

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rocco1

Jun-15-13 8:45 AM

It is unfortunate that the two people who want to rein in city spending are so flawed in other ways. They will probably be voted out, and deservedly so, but beware of who takes their places. The current group in charge is taking the easy way out by raising taxes to the max. They are not making hard decisions.

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grumpy19

Jun-15-13 11:32 AM

onlythetruth: I didn't see the meeting so have no idea if Szerlag was at the podium or on the dais at the time the remarks were being made. If he was at the podium making a presentation, the rule does apply to him. The whole thing would not even be an issue if he had addressed the entire council with his answers to the charges made.

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terrygolf1313

Jun-15-13 11:38 AM

LINDA53 IS THAT YOUR ANSWER TO EVERYTHING?IF YOU DONT LIKE IT MOVE.WITH THAT KIND OF A REMAKE YOU MUST BE A CITY PUPPET WHO ONLY WANT THEIR WAY.IF THESE UNION CLOWNS STAY IN OFFICE ANY SMART PERSON WILL MOVE OUT AND YOU CAN RENAME THE CITY (UNION TOWN)

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DOAshrimp

Jun-15-13 11:45 AM

OMG..The IRS has become an out of control political action group for the now closed White House..Every email text and phone number has been recorded by the NSA. King O and his crony Holder shred the Constitution daily. Nobel Peace Prize winner Obummer and war hawk Crazy McCain are now taking us to war to help Americas enemies the muslim brotherhood. The economy is on the path to total meltdown and soon taxpayers will get the bill for 11-30 million illegal invaders. The ObummerCare nightmare is just starting to unfold and here we are..like mindless chickens clucking away..City councils just dont seem to work here in the Cape. Where else in the US would one pay 2o some thousand bucks for water and sewer?Cant we become part of the County and put an end to this ongoing never-ending council nightmare in the Cape? Linda53 gets my vote for angriest woman on the Internet..Calm down dear before you stroke out.

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Lolita

Jun-15-13 12:23 PM

JJS...Oh my, condescending remarks about those who bag or work at Publix???? They are hard working honest people earning a living. I guess you don't like people who live with their Moms and Dads. So sorry for people like you. Try to enjoy life.

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onlythetruth

Jun-15-13 2:20 PM

Grumpy, Mr Leetz made a backhanded accusation, (as he usually does), and then He,(Mr Leetz), called Mr Szerlag to the podium to respond. Mr Szerlag then took the opportunity to set the record straight regarding Mr Leetz's not so thinly veiled accusation. Once again, Mr Leetz expected to get another false accusation by everyone simply because he sits at the dais. Thank goodness there is finally a man who will not cower to such accusations, or allow them to go unchallenged. It's called having pride in one's self and abilities, and its nice to see, its been missing for a long time in chambers.

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onlythetruth

Jun-15-13 2:25 PM

One more thing Grumpy, this RULE everyone is refering to only manifested itself when the former fab 5 controlled the dais, so they could temper the opposition at meetings. Prior to that; Mr Sullivan, Mr Leetz, Mr Deile, Mr Brandt, and Mr Khuene all directly addressed council members from the podium.

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Disgusted1

Jun-15-13 10:50 PM

After November, when Sullivan gets his behind kicked out of office, I think his effigy should be introduced as the Emblem of Cape Coral: opinionated, confused, uninformed, and ignorant. I've heard he's also judgmental, never ever wrong and vindictive. But, hush my mouth. Any more talk like this and he'll have the NSA or the CIA or the DOJ or one of those other 3-letter agencies tracking the comments on the Breeze and we'll all be in trouble!

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1sandy

Jun-16-13 7:54 AM

@netransplant: Are you saying that our Mayor may have been involved in "hit and runs?" These are very serious allegations don't you think?. Can you supply report numbers or dates and times? Serious, indeed! Hey Sully, you monitor this blog, what say you?

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Eileyn

Jun-16-13 11:50 AM

Classless. That's what a few posters are here, classless, and without thought. It's fine to disagree with someone's opinion or to disagree with a fact, or not like the fact. But instead of pointing out that, they have to insult or attempt to degrade, and make up things along the way. I happen to think that someone who gives up a week's vacation to serve children with disabilities and who works retail is far better a representative than what we currently have on that dais in that seat, which is vacant a lot too. But the point of this Richard's letter was that the mayor was out of line.

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Capewaste

Jun-16-13 8:46 PM

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