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Arguments against tax plan are not supportable

April 19, 2013

To the editor: I hear all the time how some folks complain about not being able to deduct the soon-to-be $150 tax for capital projects, but I have my doubts that this is even an issue for most folks....

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lightswitch

Apr-23-13 11:26 PM

destination attraction like Major League Baseball Training facility? Not here, boat missed 20 years ago. Economic development under the city manager you know who got us some goofball from somewhere who did squat during the boom years! Thus we have a bucket with no bottom and no one with ideas other than tax the residents. So your homes will be worthless like the $13.1 million in land this group bought to come up with a $20 million budget deficit. This city now has to depend on Wilkinson to bless the land increase its value on say so and try to bail Lee County out of the hole they dug. Doom and gloom you ain't seen nothing yet!

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lightswitch

Apr-23-13 11:19 PM

contd. and the people ask for business especially light manufacturing. It has been over 30 years and what we get are more mom and pop franchise stores, and service businesses. These are good in the right ratio but not what is here. The people over 30 years I have been here can't even spell business let alone coax them to come. I have said before business news from MSNBC rated 20 young growing cities after the census came out. Each one had a Large manufacturing type employer that fed the needs of medium sized and small businesses. Software manufacturers, Computer hardware manufacturers, food processors, biomedical research and manufacturers, etc. It listed Cape Coral at 20th with its main business as government. Which provides a service but does not produce goods nor makes private jobs to feed itself. Interesting. Fact is the people we have driving the train can't even spell business let alone fetch them. If this is false where are the contemporary companies, the university, the

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lightswitch

Apr-23-13 11:07 PM

The reason any additional tax fee should go against the millage is because the wasteful spending that has been done in Cape Coreal, Fl. It locks them into a corner. It sends a message to the state of Florida. Cape Coral is a red flagged city. That is why they want more revenue through a utility tax so they lower the milage rate and have another way to gouge a 7% tax to 10%, and allows them to start all over again creeping to the maximum of 1.0 millage rate. McClain said it was not the city's job to break the citizens. He is correct but he will tap out a lot of residents with mortgages and equity loans just to live here and you will never recoup your investment if your a young married, a mid married, or a longtime married, single, and if you have kids they are not all staying here nor should they. But at the end how many will take your investment and have no choice but to liquidate at bargain prices. Each year the city sends out a sampling of what the city needs. Each year it comes

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1sandy

Apr-23-13 7:23 AM

@grumpy19: Ok, for those with learning disabilities I will repeat. The moniies need are for INFRASTRUCTURE. The reason that there is no sunset clause on these taxes is that INFRASTRUCTURE is a continuing City service. That's it, I have said it for the last time.

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grumpy19

Apr-21-13 8:46 AM

netransplant: I said nothing about a conspiracy in my comment. I also have not heard how this proposed public service tax will be used. The fire service tax must be used for the fire department as I understand it. I have not nor had I heard anyone on the dais state that the public service tax would be collected for a specific purpose.

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netransplant

Apr-20-13 10:14 PM

Grumpy, I don't have an answer to your conspiracy comments, except when the money is budgeted toward a project is generally goes there. Please get involved if you want to know the truth!

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netransplant

Apr-20-13 10:03 PM

JJ, your comments about the city employees pocketing the boom year's dollars are the same twisted truths that the real Sullivan spouted. Yes the workers at the time earned long necessary increases at the time because factual studies showed they were vastly underpaid when compared against other municipal workers in comparable cities. Those dollars mostly went towards providing services to the thousands of new residents who made up the building boom. Your lies are just that, lies to satisfy the simple people who choose not to know where the budgeted dollars went. The little knowledge you show proves that such is a dangerous thing, but the good news is more knowledge can correct those misinformed minds.

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NanaII

Apr-20-13 3:17 PM

Seems that the RAG's continue to propose ILLEGAL solutions to our problems. We cannot raise the sales tax, nor rob pensions, nor raise the property taxes enough to make a dent in the damage they've done!

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Eileyn

Apr-20-13 6:41 AM

Drive up or down SW 15th Place, between SW 20th and Trafalgar. Then come back and share if the roads are in need of repaving or not. We live in a America, we deserve to have safe roads to traverse, and we deserve to have a Public Safety Service and Parks & Rec. 41 cents a day folks, that what it breaks down to. Now they just need to find an equitable way to assess the taxes.

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1sandy

Apr-19-13 10:21 PM

Recently, when Mayor John Sullivan was asked about cutting waste, he offered new programs that he thinks will generate revenue. What about CUTTING WASTE, he was again asked? He sat there silent! Do you know why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO MORE WASTE TO CUT!

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JJSully

Apr-19-13 10:02 PM

Your city council just spent 5 million dollars from the rate payers for new equipment, not one bit of debate went into this, not one questions as to why old equipment was not repaired. Why were 26 lap tops needed. One was listed as costing $12,000.00. Most were in the 5K range. ALso new trucks for everyone. Wasteis what it was, but this is the same group who spent 13 million dollars for land that was not needed. You cannot trust this group. They represent a small group of union and city workers and not you. We have to move forward. We have the opportunity to kick two to the curb in November, we will work on the rest later. Show you are concerned and tired of what is going on. Go to meetings and be heard. They work for you. We deserve better.

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JJSully

Apr-19-13 9:55 PM

While I respect your opinion, I would say that the money collected will not be used to pave roads, it will go into the general fund and be wasted the same way it has always been wasted. Want to know where the money from the boom years went...it went into the pockets of city workers and sweetened contracts. that is where it went. A 62% increase to the pockets of a select few. So tell me how this will be different, it will also not be 150.00 that sire is a lie. Finally, if you feel it is justified and needed, no one is stopping you for adding more money when you pay your taxes. The city will gladly take it. I see also that we have the wrong city manager.

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grumpy19

Apr-19-13 11:12 AM

We also have no guarantee that any money collected for the proposed taxers will actually be used for the stated purpose.

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grumpy19

Apr-19-13 11:11 AM

As for others stating that these new taxes should be ad valorem taxes. I agree that they should be. It is none of your business as to whether those saying that can or cannot use the itemized deductions or not. As for the bad roads in the north Cape. I don't mind paying for them, but, water and sewer should be put in first. That way, the roads don't have to be done twice. Instead of a fire tax and utility tax, raise the sales tax by a penny. The city would collect a lot more from that from everyone using the city services.

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